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Rachel Eckroth is currently on tour with Rufus Wainwright, performing tunes from their own album When It Falls before joining Wainwright in their band as part of the World-Wide All These Poses Tour.

Also, to mark the release of Laura Imbruglia‘s Scared Of You album in recent days…. a few minutes of a longer chat that will be shared in a future episode can be heard here.

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FEATURE GUEST: Rachel Eckroth

Laura Imbruglia:

 

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Next episode guest: Simon Taylor

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[Radio Production – notes: Rachel Eckroth 3’34” In Q: (sting) 38’57” Out Q: (sing) – Laura Imbruglia 39’36” In Q ” What’s the…” Out Q “….” ]

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TRANSCRIPT

For direct quotes check to audio, first version of transcript by Diana P at REV

John Murch: We’re backstage at the Adelaide Festival Theatre. What was it like this evening on stage at the Festival Theatre?

Rachel Eckroth: It was great. It was fun to feel … So, we’re back on tour from a little bit of a long hiatus. So, we were kind of feeling it out tonight. I think we were kind of revving up and by the end of the night it was kind of full on but we were all remembering our parts tonight.

John Murch: Talk us through the team. So, Rufus is at the front.

Rachel Eckroth: Brian is on bass, Gerry Leonard on guitar, Jevon Bruney is on keyboards now, and Matt Johnson is playing drums.

John Murch: Gerry and you have worked before?

Rachel Eckroth: Gerry played a lot of guitar on my album that I put out a few months ago and we did it remotely. So, in fact Tim, my husband, who produced it he asked Gerry because he hadn’t met him officially in person but knew him through some other producing stuff. So, he asked Gerry to play on my record and it was all done remotely. And I actually met Gerry in person before Tim did from this tour so.

John Murch: Wow.

Rachel Eckroth: Yeah.

John Murch: The album we speak of is the 2018 release When It Falls. How are you feeling now that that release is out?

Rachel Eckroth: I feel like it’s kind of in that mode where it’s sitting there waiting to pop. We put it out and it got a little bit of a splash right when it came out but I think me and my PR team are working on growing it this year and just kind of getting it into the ears of more people.

John Murch: There’s a lot of attention at the time of the David Bowie cover which is on the record. The particular song is not from him last album so talk to us about the connection of David Bowie, Black Star, and the song you decided to go with.

Rachel Eckroth: Let me see if I can put this in order. So, my husband is a bass player and he’s in a bad with Donny McCaslin which is the band that David Bowie had asked to play on Black Star. So, right about the time when we first started dating that was all happening. They were in the studio and creating these great sounds for his record. And so, when David passed it was actually two days after my dad passed. So, that was a really strange weekend for us. And I had started writing some of these songs for the record and it’s called When It Falls because the title track is about my dad passing and how am I going to put my life back together kind of for my whole family. We were listening to a lot of Bowie in the house, me and Tim. So, that song is from The Next Day which is the record previous to Black Star and we just really liked it a lot so we decided to kind of check it out and do a cover of it.

John Murch: Did your father get a chance to meet Tim, communicate, talk music with?

Rachel Eckroth: No, my dad he got brain cancer and he had a surgery a few days after they found out. So, once he had his surgery he sort of became a different guy and it was really hard to communicate everything with him. So, but fortunately Tim was able to see him Christmas of that year and my dad, he wasn’t talking much but he still kind of had a sense of humor and I think he was really happy to meet Tim.

John Murch: Were Christmas’s special before that Christmas?

Rachel Eckroth: Always, yeah, yeah. They’re still special. Yeah, but it was a tough one but yeah.

John Murch: So, the album relates to him and his life, When It Falls?

Rachel Eckroth: Yup.

John Murch: Is the When It Falls directly related to his health, or his passing, or where does that sit?

Rachel Eckroth: When It Falls means when our lives fall apart. The lyrics go, “When it all falls down will we know what to do with the pieces?” So, that was kind of the question. I wrote it before he passed away because it was inevitable at that time.

John Murch: What was his feeling and input towards your music and particularly your music career, your original material?

Rachel Eckroth: So, my dad was my biggest fan. He was the guy that took me around when I was 16 to jazz clubs in Phoenix, Arizona because I couldn’t get in, I was too young. So, he would take me around and he was actually a keyboardist too, and a band director, and a musician. I think he was like the proud dad and took me around ’cause the bands around town would let me sit in with them and it was kind of my growth as a beginner gigging musician. He was also very critical, and he was a perfectionist, and you know so.

John Murch: How did you take the criticism from him?

Rachel Eckroth: I took it different ways in different periods of my life. So, probably as a teenager I didn’t want to hear it ’cause I knew more than he did but just in my head. But when I started writing lyrics they weren’t that good. And so, I remember playing my first couple of songs for my dad and he just got up and walked away. So, I was kind of hurt by that but I think it was just his way of saying, “Keep going, keep trying, do better”.

John Murch: What’s one of the most memorable experiences at these jazz clubs with him?

Rachel Eckroth: I used to go see this singer named Dennis Rowland in Phoenix. He used to sing with the Count Basie band I think in the 80’s. He was my mentor in Phoenix. So, my dad took me out. And there was this one particular time when I won an award in Phoenix for being a good improviser in high school and so I think he was just proud to watch me start. I sat in and played Take The A Train.

John Murch: So, a member of Count Basie’s band?

Rachel Eckroth: Yeah. Yeah. Yup.

John Murch: That’s bold.

Rachel Eckroth: I didn’t know any better so.

John Murch: Is there anything else before we do move on that we need to know about your dad in terms of this record, in terms of how he influenced you?

Rachel Eckroth: My dad worked so hard in his life to keep our family afloat and now that he’s gone he’s made it so that my mom is taken care of. He was good that way. And I think I take from it just work as hard as you can. I never stop working hard and I think of him all the time trying just to get better and try to … But on the other side of it he was a workaholic and so I always have to remember to take a break as well.

John Murch: The obvious question’s been asked of your husband and yourself both being touring musicians. It’s a job, it’s what you do. Do you feel there’s a stronger connection because you’re doing the same kind of field even though you’re apart a lot?

Rachel Eckroth: I think so. I think we have a special connection. I don’t know if it’s stronger than it would be with any other kind of profession. But it’s special because we hear a lot of things in the same world in the same way. So, we both like to experiment with sound and we get a kick out of it together just making crazy noise in the house. And I don’t think there’s many couples that sit around doing that for fun.

John Murch: Extension of that is the production of the record. Were there some fun moments in that by the two?

Rachel Eckroth: Yeah actually before I met Tim I was only meddling with peddles and Tim really taught me how to use them in a better way I think, more than the obvious. If you have a delay peddle there’s an obvious way to use a delay peddle. You just have the notes repeat. But he showed me other ways to just get really inside them and use them in ways that aren’t common.

John Murch: Are you feeling more comfortable on the guitar?

Rachel Eckroth: Yeah. I’m excited that I took the time to learn how to play. It’s changed my writing a little bit.

John Murch: Talk to us about that yeah.

Rachel Eckroth: Writing the songs. Obviously, well I don’t know if it’s obvious, but I obviously not a guitarist. I’m a person that plays chords. But I think having limits on the guitar helps me slow down with the chord writing and find notes that aren’t easy to find on a piano. I can do whatever on a piano, and figure out chords, and play melodies really quickly but I can’t do it on a guitar. So, I’ll just find a couple of notes that sound nice together and see what I come up with.

John Murch: You’re set up tonight doing a solo set was highly impressive. I’ve seen a lot of that magic been done on stage before but it was like three fold. What’s been some of the steps towards getting to that? Has it been releasing the album? Has it been being on the road?

Rachel Eckroth: The way I came up with that set up is out of necessity. I had to break my record down and find a way to perform those songs. But not just having a piano and playing the chords. I did one song just straight piano with voice. So, what I did I found the Roland SP404, actually Roland suggested it, the company suggested it for me and it’s really pretty versatile, it’s like a sampler And it also has some drums on it that you can create beats and stuff and it has effects. So, I used that. I took actually samples from the record, sounds, not really any beats or anything but just some of the drone sounds that are on the record and I trigger them during the song.

John Murch: Does that help you perform it as well getting a sense of the record, remembering being in the studio to the actually performing it?

Rachel Eckroth: Not as much as you would think because every time I perform these songs they’re different every night. I’ve switched the forms around and I might change the chords, change the bass notes. And then so, I use a little, the chord monologue for the bass stuff then I get the pedals going on the Nord and I’ve got the TC Helicon voice processor so that’s really fun. So, I get to sing a bunch of harmonies with myself and it fills up the space a lot.

John Murch: A couple of weeks ago you released a brand new single, it’s called I’ll Try featuring Althea Grace. It was mixed by Pete Min better known as Lucy’s Meat Market.

Rachel Eckroth: That’s his Instagram name.

John Murch: We’ll get back to that maybe later. What else do we need to know about the song I’ll Try?

Rachel Eckroth: I started writing with people this year. I made it a point to call people and get them to my house and just start co writing a lot of songs.

John Murch: How do you find that? Do you find it easy to pick up the phone and ask?

Rachel Eckroth: Easier than ever yes. It’s easier to just call up somebody and be like, “Hey you want to write a song?” “Yeah. Yeah.” Because you can’t lose. You write something you’re both co writers. Maybe it gets played some more, maybe you record it, you’re going to get something out of it. So, I think people that like to write like to do that.

John Murch: And Grace is on board for this one?

Rachel Eckroth: Yes. So, Althea Grace is a young singer, song writer, guitarist in the folk realm. She was opening for Los Lobos and Doyle Bramhall. So, she came over, she just moved to L.A. I met her on the road when Tim was with Tedeschi Trucks Band. She came over, we wrote a song and then I was like, “You know what? Let’s do this as a duet”. And so, we recorded it. I had Tim play bass. I played some electric guitar. Althea played the acoustic guitar. My friend Brian Griffin who I performed with a lot he played drums in his studio and sent them over. And that was it, that’s the first track I’ve done with no keyboards by the way.

John Murch: Yeah. I did find there was an instrument missing in that and obviously when you listen to it as well you’re like, “Hang on isn’t Rachel’s main instrument something more black and white?” I can’t make you an honest man but I’ll try. Is this the woe of the 27 something year old trying to find the perfect partner?

Rachel Eckroth: I think so. I think it’s any age woman. I kind of was creating a story in my head and the feel of the song is this cowboy noir is what I like to call it. So, I have this vision in my head of a woman in a house in the desert how has a cowboy husband, or man, or whatever, and he keeps leaving because he’s always leaving. He has to leave so she’s there alone. It’s kind of the basis of the story.

John Murch: Lucy’s Meat Market is mentioned as the handle of the guy who’s mixed it Pete Min you’ve become a vegan. So, every time you see his Insta handle you must be offended by that because vegans are so … How’s it going being a vegan?

Rachel Eckroth: Listen I went vegan for health reasons. I love a steak I’m telling you. I’ll eat steak all day but I had to change it up. So, and it’s actually really great. I feel so light and clear headed. And the problems I was having aren’t happening so I’m hoping this is the way for now.

John Murch: Has there been some challenges in turning vegan?

Rachel Eckroth: Yeah actually being on the road is a little tricky so I was saying today I had to go buy some protein powder, P Protein. It’s just stuff like that. It’s like you can’t find … I was eating coconut shavings all day and nuts. It just sounds like what a bunny eats. But I’ve got to figure it out.

John Murch: Steaks are good.

Rachel Eckroth: I’ve got to find the vegetables.

John Murch: Steaks are good.

Rachel Eckroth: Steak is delicious.

John Murch: Can I ask you about, Deep Down Load Feel From You?

Rachel Eckroth: This is a co write with Michael Stegner. Michael Stegner is a producer, keyboardist, and engineer in his home studio. He does that a lot. He finds artists and produces them. And so, we did that song. He did all of the music around it. We sort of collaborated on the music but he ended up producing it all around it. I brought in a Moog DFAM which is their drone machine and we just created some stuff in there and he wrote most of the story, most of the lyrics.

John Murch: Because that’s out there as well? That’s sort of fallen between the record and this new single I’ll Try?

Rachel Eckroth: It’s more of a joint thing so I don’t really call it my song but we just did it. We just wrote another one the other day too so that should be coming out soon.

John Murch: Are you enjoying doing that?

Rachel Eckroth: Yeah a lot. It’s actually quick, it’s quicker. Yeah I did one with a girl named Laura Jean Anderson who’s great. She’s a wonderful singer and a great musician. There’s a song cooking somewhere with her and I have some other plans for the future, soon future. I am definitely enjoying writing songs that are not so personal. I’ll save those for my records, my own projects. But I am enjoying sharing the story and sharing the ideas.

John Murch: Are you close to a follow up for When It Falls?

Rachel Eckroth: I don’t really have that written yet. I want to. So, I produced I’ll Try so that was my production baby I guess. I’m thinking the next record I’ll do that, I’ll produce the whole thing in my home for the most part, see if I can do it.

John Murch: I’m going to get a little bit left of field just so we can cover some things in life away from the music. Just pondering on doing a bit of Insta stalking of your husband as one does during the interval does Spike relate to Buffy The Vampire Slayer?

Rachel Eckroth: Spike?

John Murch: Yes he said this evening he claims he’s starting to look like Spike.

Rachel Eckroth: Spike is his dad.

John Murch: Oh.

Rachel Eckroth: He’s starting to look like him a little bit.

John Murch: I’m glad I asked though because I was thinking Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Spike who’s in that.

Rachel Eckroth: Well, Tim, I don’t think Tim has ever seen Buffy The Vampire Slayer. Spike is a piano player, he was a piano player too.

John Murch: Can you talk to us about this touring experience? We’ll briefly get back to Rufus because this is who you’re on the road with for the next couple of … Oh we better not say it too loudly he might be listening. You’re on the road with him for the next couple of month isn’t it?

Rachel Eckroth: Yeah we finish up the Poses Tour in May in Canada.

John Murch: What are you looking forward to Rachel in this tour?

Rachel Eckroth: I am looking forward to kind of perfecting the solo set. Every night like I said, it kind of changes every night.

John Murch: And you’re getting it every night as well, the solo set?

Rachel Eckroth: Yeah, almost every show. And so, I’m just trying to find the perfect balance of song choices with the audience. Maybe I’ll write a few along the way and pop in some more up beat things. So, that meeting more people, meeting audience members, and hopefully gaining some fans, selling some records you know, traveling, I love going to different cities so.

John Murch: How is this tour, and it’s only just started I know, different to other tours that you’ve done?

Rachel Eckroth: So far I’m super enjoying this and I think it’s because I get to do my own thing. I have never got to jump on someone else’s tour with my music. So, that’s probably the biggest plus for me. And I like the songs, I love the music. It’s fun to watch Rufus. He’s hilarious on stage. He’s a great singer. He nails it every night. And he’s fun to sing with. I get to sing those backgrounds. It’s a lot of his sister Martha’s stuff on the record so I get to do my Martha impression.

John Murch: That’s a huge honor. You know it is don’t you?

Rachel Eckroth: I love her yes, yes. I’m enjoying it.

John Murch: How much research did you do before this tour to that very fact that you’d be doing the BVs of Martha?

Rachel Eckroth: Watched a ton of YouTube to see all of the different ways these songs were performed and I bought a couple of Martha records. And I mean that’s about it. I just practiced the feel of her voice. But I’m not trying to copy her but I’m trying to get the same feeling with Rufus as best I can.

John Murch: When I ask, “How is the home life?” What I’m asking is about as much as you want to share the dynamics of being two musicians getting a life together and getting things happening?

Rachel Eckroth: Well we just got married in November so we spent our first three’ish months ever together. Part of November, December, January, part of February, we were basically together the whole time. I think that’s the longest we’ve ever been together because we’re always on different tours meeting in other cities, and staying in hotels, and all kinds of here for two days, “Okay see you in two weeks”. So, that’s been a learning process just like trying to get used to each other in one space. The good thing is we get along, we like each other, we share music, we share ideas with each other on how to further our own careers, and then the things that we do together. And we also like to go to the beach and eat steaks when I’m not a vegan and yeah we have a good time.

John Murch: And outside of that what do you like doing?

Rachel Eckroth: Oh wow, that’s a hard question ’cause I’m a workaholic. I started learning photography so I’m working on that.

John Murch: Talk to me about that.

Rachel Eckroth: I’m very amateur. Well, I bought a camera about three years ago and it took me a little while to actually understand what was happening.

John Murch: So, what do you want from your photography?

Rachel Eckroth: I want to learn how to take portraits of people. So, I’m doing it as an experiment on myself just to get to learn lighting and to learn …

John Murch: So, they are self portraits?

Rachel Eckroth: They are mostly. I mean there are some from photographers in my stuff. But I’m working on lighting, it’s kind of hard but especially when we have limited resources because I don’t have a ton of stuff that I’m working with.

John Murch: When you’re talking about music you said the limitations are actually a good thing.

Rachel Eckroth: It’s a little different because between piano and guitar I know music but I’ve never studied lighting, I’ve never studied any photography or anything like that. So, it’s all in one. So, my limitations with that is I don’t have this kind of light when I watch this video that tells me, “Oh get one of these”, or, “You need this kind of background it’ll be great”. I just have to use what I have so I figure as I go along I can pick the pieces and get it together but I know it’s not really about all of the stuff you have it’s more about just getting the correct lighting and taking a good shot so.

John Murch: But it’s also about the eye as well. So, as much as music’s about the ear, photography is about the eye. Touring these next couple of months are going to give you some great inspirations to take off the hip photography and those kind of things.

Rachel Eckroth: Totally and I brought my camera so I can spend a little extra time on my days off.

John Murch: When you’re on the planes looking at the clouds now that you’re a photographer do you see the clouds differently?

Rachel Eckroth: I’ll be honest I close the window because I want to sleep but I know what you mean. Actually I’ve been seeing things differently. I’ve been seeing shadows, and lighting, and all of that kind of stuff ’cause I’m just more in tuned to it now that I’ve been trying photos.

John Murch: Are you setting yourself an assignment as part of this photography learning? Is there a particular outcome you want after X period of time?

Rachel Eckroth: No, I mean there’s little things I want to try like I see photos and I wonder how do they do that. So, I have to do a little research and figure it out. I really enjoy it and I have this weird dream in my head that if I have to quit music someday I’ll be able to be a photographer and do that. So, I’m going to get good.

John Murch: Where did that inspiration come from?

Rachel Eckroth: Just art all around me. And I’ve always liked visual art. I have worked with a few photographers that have shot me that I am always in awe of their photos. Shervin Lainez that took some of the photos recently of me, beautiful career taking pictures of musicians, it’s inspiring. You took a picture of Rufus, some photos with Rufus and my other old boss Kt Tunstall.

John Murch: Oh we haven’t spoke about KT have we?

Rachel Eckroth: Yeah.

John Murch: Let’s talk about KT. So, before Rufus you were touring with KT Tunstall. Rachel, who is KT to you?

Rachel Eckroth: She is a total rockstar. She got me hooked on shiny things. So, when we were on tour she was always wearing shiny pants, silver pants or whatever. So, that was kind of the look of the band. So, she’s a great song writer, a really great rhythmic guitarist. She’s Scottish so she has this other sense of humor that I had to learn to understand but she’s just a sweet person.

John Murch: What did you learn from her apart from a different sense of humor?

Rachel Eckroth: Watching her on the stage was really great because she is super entertaining. So, she knew how to talk to the crowd, she knew how to get people excited. I like to sit back in my keyboard chair and see how they do it and try to pick those things up. I have not perfected that but …

John Murch: But you’re in that prime position as you said in the back to see the audience’s reactions. So, really from an education point of view such a great spot to be in.

Rachel Eckroth: Definitely.

John Murch: I want to get back to photography. Black and white or colour?

Rachel Eckroth: Both. Both.

John Murch: Subject matter?

Rachel Eckroth: I like people in their daily life action. I kind of want to just take pictures of people. I don’t know if I would be much of a nature photographer or not but I want to get close up and personal.

John Murch: What do you find interesting about people?

Rachel Eckroth: I think that people can look beautiful even if they’re typically not beautiful people. You can find ways to find their beauty in a photo.

John Murch: Are you a people watcher particularly when it comes to song writing?

Rachel Eckroth: A people watcher?

John Murch: Yeah when it comes to song writing particularly.

Rachel Eckroth: Not, probably not as much as more like introspective when I’m writing.

John Murch: So, does that mean you need to experience yourself or can the narrative be told from someone else that you can then empathize and then write the song?

Rachel Eckroth: I’m working on that. I’ll Try is kind of that. Yeah, I’m working on trying to branch out and tell stories from different perspectives.

John Murch: Where does the song … I’m talking about your music now, not the collaborative. So, this is purely tunes that may appear on this fourth album of yours. Where is the song writing space for you? Songs being written, is it in the shower, is at the dinner table, is at a writing desk?

Rachel Eckroth: It’s all different. I have written songs in the shower. Gosh, it’s so many different things. I’ll dream a lyric, or I’ll dream a scene, or I’ll dream a chord. Lately I’ve just been kind of hashing out songs at the piano just to get it done quicker. I spend my time in the house doing house work and at the same time thinking of lyrics. So, I could be doing anything writing a song.

John Murch: That old chestnut of lyric, music, which comes first, tinkering at the keyboard would suggest both at the same time but is there one in front of the other?

Rachel Eckroth: I do it either way but I find that getting the music figured out first is better for the song I think.

John Murch: So, talk us through this tinkering. You’ve got some wonderful sense but what are you doing when you’re tinkering?

Rachel Eckroth: Well, lately we’ve acquired a bunch of new sense so we’ve had a bunch of new analog sense and a lot of them can be hooked together or basically patched together. So, one triggers the other to do a thing. So, you can get this whole chain of sense going. Kind of what we do, Tim and I is just experiment with sound and beats and it’s really just about turning knobs and seeing what sounds good.

John Murch: Are you over jazz?

Rachel Eckroth: No I’m not over it. I just am out of it right now. I didn’t put my life into it at one point. It just sort of, I went in another direction. I still, like I just wrote a big band chart, I wrote a big band arrangement for my friend that teaches at Berkeley. So, I still am in it sort of but I’m just not playing. I’m not out playing, maybe some day again.

John Murch: I am pondering what would draw you back to jazz.

Rachel Eckroth: I think time because I need to be a song writer and a singer. If I had more time I would do it still. I mean I dabble. It’s not ever going to go away but it’s just not the same, things changed.

John Murch: What’s your favorite thing to cook?

Rachel Eckroth: I love baking cookies, and cakes, and pie, and all of that stuff, but I don’t do it.

John Murch: Watching people bake cookies or what’s your level of enjoyment then with it?

Rachel Eckroth: I just think it’s just the creation of something delicious. Back in the day I would make a batch of cookies but not eat them, just give them away because I would enjoy it so much.

John Murch: You’re so sweet. What’s your favorite song on the record When It Falls?

Rachel Eckroth: It changes all the time. I think Walls, the first track, is to me the most solid song on there.

John Murch: Great opener.

Rachel Eckroth: Thank you. It’s sonically weird and different but it’s also a pretty contemporary sounding chord structure and the form of it is very now I think. But then also, The Love Is Lost, that’s my favorite groove on the new record. That’s the hardest rocking groove in my opinion.

John Murch: Starting to do photography now so you’re approach for the visuals for this record. How do you sit with music clips for your own music?

Rachel Eckroth: As sort of a vision board happening with the colors that I want to use for the upcoming year of my whole project, the whole Rachel Eckroth thing.

John Murch: This next record, I’m calling it the fourth solo album you really have put your heart into it, it’s just the fact of getting it out there. Vision board, colors?

Rachel Eckroth: Well, I have to write the songs too. That’s coming, that’ll come last, I really just have to get the look right.

John Murch: Can you talk to us about this process of vision boards and colors? How does that fit in?

Rachel Eckroth: I just sort of pick what’s attractive to me right now and the images. So, I’m kind of going for a more minimalistic look coming up, certain hues that I’ve picked out and strange images.

John Murch: What’s your favorite colour at the moment today?

Rachel Eckroth: Pink. Like your pants.

John Murch: Pink. You didn’t even skip a beat. You were right there.

Rachel Eckroth: There’s a lot of pinks in my life.

John Murch: Rachel it’s been an absolute pleasure.

Rachel Eckroth: Thank you.

John Murch: Was there anything else you’d like to discuss with us?

Rachel Eckroth: Well, I would like to discuss where did you get that shirt because it’s really cool.

John Murch: It’s from London.

John Murch: How are you feeling about the future?

Rachel Eckroth: I feel good. I feel like it’s going to be a lot of hard work. I like it.

John Murch: Do you have a pet in your life?

Rachel Eckroth: No.

John Murch: You’re not a dog, cat kind of person?

Rachel Eckroth: We want to get a Burmese Mountain dog so bad. They’re so huge and cute but we’re never home so we can’t do it.

John Murch: Do you mind talking about tattoos?

Rachel Eckroth: Sure.

John Murch: ‘Cause I’m wearing roses.

Rachel Eckroth: Oh yeah I have the rose on my shoulder. I got these two in London. I got them when I was on tour with KT Tunstall. We spent a ton of time in London just waiting for the gig. So, one is a rocket and one is a heart and I did research the place that I got this because it was my first in a really long time. I have a little one on my ankle that I got when I was 18. It’s a little symbol for patience. It’s kind of worn of. My patience has worn off. And so, I have this geometric heart and I have a little rocket. The rocket was a kind of just off the cuff tattoo which …

John Murch: A drunken one?

Rachel Eckroth: No, not drunk just bored.

John Murch: It’s been an absolute pleasure. Thank you very much for your time.

Rachel Eckroth: Thank you so much.